Sarcoids in Horses
April 27, 2009
Treatment for sarcoids, the most-common skin tumor in horses.
Question:
My horse has a sarcoid. How can I learn more about sarcoids?
Answer:
Our friends at the American Association of Equine Practitioners recently published this article, which explains sarcoids in horses and ways to treat them.
A Texas veterinarian is taking a novel approach to sarcoid treatment, removing portions of the tumors, freezing the tissue in liquid nitrogen and implanting it in the same horse’s body.
“This is basically a very archaic viral vaccination attempt,” says Dr. Benjamin Espy, a private practitioner who says the technique has been successful in 12 of 15 documented cases so far. “We are trying to get the body to recognize the sarcoid as foreign and mount its own response. This is an autologous vaccine, meaning it’s made from the same animal you give it to – a very common technique in other livestock species.”
Sarcoids, the most-common skin tumor of horses, are believed to be caused by the bovine papilloma virus. They can be treated with chemotherapy drugs, such as cisplatin, or removed surgically or with lasers. However, Dr. Espy says, if any trace of a growth remains, the sarcoids will return.
“If you take off a huge sarcoid and leave behind even a tiny portion by accident, there might be five, six or 10 billion virus particles in it, and the sarcoid will come back, possibly even worse because once they’ve been significantly disturbed, sarcoids can become very angry.”
An injectable sarcoid vaccine is under development, he says, but studies on its efficacy have been controversial.
Dr. Espy specializes in equine reproductive work (theriogenology), but several challenging sarcoid cases associated with equine genitalia have been brought to his practice over the years, which sent him looking for better ways of treating the tumors.
“For instance,” he says, “I had a stallion referred to me with a huge sarcoid on his sheath. There is only so much you can cut away in that area.”
For his technique, Dr. Espy takes several pencil-eraser-sized samples off the surface of the tumor and freezes them by immersing them in liquid nitrogen to kill the virus. Once the sections have thawed, Espy implants them along the crest of the neck.
“I choose the crest because the skin is thin and the area relatively immobile so it heals quickly and, if there is a scar or white hair accumulation, the mane will cover it.”
So far, says Dr. Espy, the technique has been as or more successful than conventional sarcoid treatments he has tried. The tumors typically regress between 90 and 120 days after treatment, but some have taken as long as 180 days to subside. None of the horses has had a recurrence, Dr. Espy says. The horse he has followed the longest is still sarcoid-free five years later.
Dr. Espy says after presenting a paper on the technique at the 2008 American Association of Equine Practitioners Convention, he was approached by several veterinarians who recalled a similar discussion at the 1975 convention in Nevada.
“It’s logical, so I’m sure I’m not the first person who thought of it,” he says, adding that his main goal was sharing information about an effective treatment. “I’m a repro guy, I’ll leave it up to the dermatologists and pathologists to figure out and write the paper on exactly why this works, but I’ve seen that it does.”
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April 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
We had a horse, over 30 yrs ago, that had sarcoids, and we tried that method on the horse and it did not work. What it did was deform the ear and caused the wound to bleed into her ear and she had to be put down cause of this. A few yrs ago, I had an older Appaloosa that also had a few on the outside of his ear, and my vet had this paste that we applied and it caused them to slough off and not come back. The only discomfort to the horse, was the cleaning and reapplying of the ointment, which was done every other day. He lived the last 6 yrs off his life sarcoid free and in pretty good health..for a horse almost 30.
Annie
April 29th, 2009 at 3:38 am
Sarcoids are pretty common here in the UK in varying degrees, and it will be interesting to watch how treatment developes, and hopefully successfully. We have had experience of horses in our family with dreadful cases of sarcoids, and unfortunately,there was no option of breeding or conquering the ailment. The horses were put down after trying surgery and all other avenues of treatment.
April 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
I have seen a case where this did not work as well. The mare had a huge growth on her hock. It just kept getting bigger and bigger. THe more attempts were made the faster it grew. After several atempts and even more dollars over a few years the mare was finally destroyed.
April 29th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
In 2001 I had a horse with sarcoids mainly on his neck and chest,we used a product called exterra that was purchased through my vet.The product was an ointment we applied on the sarcoids,it was very ugly but successful.The exterra ate or burned the sarcoid and its roots off of the horse.When I say ugly I mean a nasty bloody mess.The worst one was on the horses neck and when it was gone there was a concave area that was about the size of a womans fist.The treatment took a few weeks and was alot to put the horse through because the exterra had to be applied daily onto the open wounds.In the end,the wounds healed with only very slight scars at the area of the largest sarcoids.The sarcoids never came back.
April 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I had a Appy with a small sarcoid on it’s neck and treated it with Tea Tree oil and it was quite sucessfull. It has not re appeared as yet. It appeared in 2003 and was gone in 2004.I have dated photos of before and during and after.
Chris Bullerdick
Norland Ontario Canada
June 1st, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I’ve had some ongoing issues with sarcoids in one of my mares. After trying just about everything from freezing to laser to surgically removing, I thought nothing could keep them from returning.
A friend of mine recommended Mushroom Matrix ECP for immune support and overall maintenance. I kid you not, within a month her sarcoids literally fell off. They started to turn dark in color and then within a week later had fallen off of the skin. I was mind boggled. The mushrooms have anti-angiogenisis compounds which cut off the blood supply to tumors. Evidently the sarcoid tumors died and then fell off. I couldn’t be more pleased. I feel obligated to pass this information along to anyone dealing with the never-ending battle with sarcoids.
June 29th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
I too have a mare with a sarcoid on the top of her butt. I have been treating it with exterra for the past 3 years. Only to keep coming back. I would like to try the MUshroom Matrix ECP! Where can I get some?
Thank you, Dawn
July 1st, 2009 at 7:30 pm
I too would like to know more about the Mushroom Matrix ECP? Where to find? Thanks for your help
July 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Please let us know where to purchase this Mushroom Matrix ECP
July 3rd, 2009 at 7:21 am
I have never in over 35 years had a horse with this problem and I live on the same farm the home time.. This year I have 5 young horses from 2 years to 5 years old that each have 1 to 3 of these sarcoids (that is what my vet called them) They look like a wart but the size of a dime and 1/4 thick. After waiting a month he has brought me this medicine XXTERRA. I would like to know if I should use this or try this Mushroom Matrix ECP instead?
We have never had cattle, where does this come from? Where can I find out more information on this subject?
Can anyone help.
Has anyone responed on where to get the Mushroom Matrix ECP?
July 4th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Please let me know where to get the Mushroom Mattrix ECP?
July 4th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
is it o.k. to exercise a horse with a sarcoid? What about taking him swimming?
July 5th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
use google to find muchroom matrix. also farmvet.com carries it
July 7th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Does anyone know a supplier for this mushroom matrix in Canada? Tried google and am still waiting to hear from Farmvet.
July 8th, 2009 at 5:39 am
Where I can purchase the Tea Tree oil and Mushroom Matrix ECP?
July 8th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I have a horse that developed a sarcoid this spring and have treated it with exterra. I didn’t get it all but party of it fell off. Maybe Americas Horse mag. could do a more indepth article covering the other cures mentioned in these posts and not just Dr Espys way. I’m going to try and find the mushroom stuff.
July 12th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I had never even heard of a sarcoid until we got a rescue horse and she had one the size of a half dollar on her chest. Our vet recommended exterra. We are on our second treatment and yes it is a bloody ugly mess but I think we got it this time. I’m anxious to see what it will look like when healed but happy to hear about this Mushroom Matrix ECP, we definitely prefer using natural products and they all seem to work so far. Except in the caseof the Exterra, and a warning that stuff is like acid so wear gloves and only apply directly to sarcoid do not mess with tissue surrounding the sarcoid.
August 13th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Has anyone found out where to get Mushroom Matrix ECP in Canada, yet?
September 3rd, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Where can you purchase Xterra?
September 10th, 2009 at 9:20 am
I purchased a mare at a sale, and they did not call the condition on her neck before I bid on her. She has 3 areas which appear to be sarcoids, but according to an M.D. and a veterinarian, without biopsy, it is impossible to diagnose because it closely mimics other skin conditions, such as fungus. I am treating her with XXTERRA, herbal paste for immune stimulation (as on the jar). It came from Larson Laboratories, Fort Collins, CO 800 962-4554. I paid $120.00 for 1 ounce. It says, “Sold only to veterinarians.” You could call them directly and find out more. The mare only exhibited discomfort after the first treatment by scratching the areas with her foot. It has not caused any skin reaction when incidentally contacting human skin in our case. Hope this helps someone. We can see a change in the lesions, but they have not sloughed as yet after 2 weeks and 3 treatments.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
I have gotten rid of several sarcoids with Tea Tree Oil. You have to be faithful and put it on twice a day. It may take one to two months but it will work. You can buy Tea Tree Oil in any health food store. We got rid of one that was over an inch long on the ear. It took 2 months but has never come back.
September 13th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
My Horse Owners vet book identified an “uncommon Ringworn-looking” growth as a sarcoid. My vet confirmed. She recommended “Indian Mud” aka Blood Root Paste. I was able to purchase a small jar through Frugalherbs.com for about $20.
Our resident trainer has used the stuff on a horse of her own and a local well know/respected trainer recognised it when he asked me what I was doing to treat “what’s that on her neck?”
It came with a few popsicle sticks for application, some band-aids and instructions for HUMAN!!! application. Please, acknowledge this! The instructions were for HUMAN application. But….it is working on my mare.
It is taking some time, I’m not in any hurry. I was expecting a big bloody mess as the sarcoid died, but, nothing as dramatic as that has happened.
I spred the fudge looking paste on a Silver dollar size area of sarcoids on her neck, above her shoulder, not a good place for a band-aid (or duck tape or vet wrap…trust me.)
Small scabs formed, kinda like chicken pox, fell off and the area is healing. It’s taken about a month.
Not all the scabs are coming off at one time, but like I said, I’m not in a hurry and I like the odds of the skin cancer NOT coming back using this treatment.
It’s looking good. Be patient.
Good luck!
September 14th, 2009 at 12:23 am
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I ride and bathe my mare during treatment, even with the reins laying where the sarcoid is on her neck. Just use your own judgement and pay attention to any reaction.
In some cases, it may look worse before it gets better. It’s like a double whammy. Until now, the sarcoid has “flown under the radar” of the horses own natural antibodies to prevent/fight infection. By applying the Mud,(or other herbal/natural treatment of choise) killing the sarcoid, all of a sudden, the body recognises there is an invader that needs to be got rid of, so you have an external source (treatment) attacking the cancer and now the horses own antibodies trying to expel it, too.
Keep your Scarlet Oil handy and LET YOUR VET KNOW what treatment you have chose.
September 16th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
I have a 12yo gelding that had large sarcoid(size of a golf ball) on the inside tip of his ear, this had been slowly growing for approx 5yrs. I asked my vet to remove it and with in 1 yr it grew back bigger and with 2 small ones close. Again we removed. This time they grew back as big in 6mos then he shook off the large one at the end of July. Now they are as big as ever and still with the continual oosing of fluid and blood. I’ve tried tea tree oil, cortisone spray and a mix of ground turmeric and mustard.The ear has never completely healed after the 1st removal. How long is it before results will be seen on an effective treatment?
September 17th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Our cutting horse came down with a sarcoid on his ear this summer. It has been increasing in size. We are now trying xxterra on it, but I am concerned with the warnings that it may deform ear cartlidge. We began with a human skin cancer treatment (2 days) that changed the sarcoid appearance immediately. It made the horse very tender and it was costly. We are in the “off” time with the xxterra treatment now, but I am hoping for some good results. Years ago, my favorite mare suffered from all 3 types of sarcoids, and nothing I tried worked, including grinding the sacroid and making an autologous vaccine. That was many years ago, so hopefully there has been more success in that area.
September 17th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Has anyone had success w/a large sarcoid healing? I have a yearling filly that the vet recently surgically removed and froze, will refreeze in 2 weeks and may need another ($179.00 per freeze). He says if that does not work we will use chemotherapy IV. Does anyone know if it will be worth it in the long run? The sarcoided area after removal was approx 2 inches diameter. (Sarcoid comfirmed by TAMU).
September 19th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I had a mare with a sarcoid on the inside of her leg. My husband remembered treating cows years ago with bacon grease. Sounds weird, but save some bacon grease and each day applied it to the sarcoid until it fell off. It was quite red and irritated skin then, but just treated it with any first aid type cream and it healed nicely, hair regrew, and she never got another one. I think the salt in the grease killed it.
September 24th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
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This mushroom ECP stuff doesn’t necessarily always make the sarcoid fall off the skin, but it reduced the size and eventually cleared it up after about 6 weeks. It does take a little time because it works from the inside-out.
I like it because it is natural and organic,its safe. Its preventative medicine, I was recommended to keep her on it so they wouldn’t return. It is supposed to help with a lot of other issues too. I talked to their people, they’re out of Southern California somewhere.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Exterra-available only via vet-burns badly
Tea tree oil-haven’t tried-
Mushroom Matrix-…..gimmick
Vet said after cutting them off, they usually will return and spread further-horse will still require radiation and will cost about $5000-most horses are still put down-
THE SAD REALITY
November 5th, 2009 at 8:09 am
My gelding has a Sarcoid that grew on his left eye lid and continued to grow under the skin causing a large bump on the eye lid. I took him to the vet to find out about removal but they told to wait because there is a current injection, but they cant find it. I’m wondering if this injection is out there and if anyone has information on it? Also on top of his eye lid he had a Fibroblastic Sarcoid that I treated with an over the counter wart treatment past. It was about 1/2in in diameter and grew out close to a 1/2in. I couldn’t believe how well it worked! I stopped treatment about 6 months and go and have seen no sign of it. I applied it every other day for roughly 2 months. I have xxterra and it never worked quite well as this.
November 13th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
I have a ‘97 paint gelded 3yrs ago. What started as an ariel plaque turned into 3 large sarcoids. I had these removed 3 times and at 1 time it feel off. When the one feel off in July I have begun treatment with xxterra cream, by then it was the size of 1/2 my fist with the ear hanging below horizonal. I had my vet remove it again thinking if I could get to the root I would be more effective. 4 weeks ago and starting treatment again it is only a nasty scab. This weekend will be 2nd treatment and it looks good to me. I have pics of the size we were dealing with if interested.
November 13th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I have a ‘97 paint gelded 3yrs ago. What started as an ariel plaque turned into 3 large sarcoids. I had these removed 3 times and at 1 time it fell off. When the one feel off in July I have begun treatment with xxterra cream, by then it was the size of 1/2 my fist with the ear hanging below horizonal. I had my vet remove it again thinking if I could get to the root I would be more effective. 4 weeks ago and starting treatment again it is only a nasty scab. This weekend will be 2nd treatment and it looks good to me. I have pics of the size we were dealing with if interested.
November 13th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
I have a ‘97 paint gelded 3yrs ago. What started as an ariel plaque turned into 3 large sarcoids. I had these removed 3 times and at 1 time it fell off (in July). When the one fell off in July I have begun treatment with xxterra cream, by then it was the size of 1/2 my fist with the ear hanging below horizonal. I had my vet remove it again thinking if I could get to the root I would be more effective. 4 weeks ago and starting treatment again it is only a nasty scab. This weekend will be 2nd treatment and it looks good to me. I have pics of the size we were dealing with if interested.
November 15th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I have a 5 yr. old paint mare that has 2 sarcoids. One on her hind leg and the other on hip. My vet. gave me Xxterra to use and I am following the instructions on the jar. Apply for 4 days in row and then not again for 10-20 days. I started my third treatment yesterday and was wondering if everyone else has followed this same routine? The sites are so heavy with scabs that it’s hard to tell if anything is working. Any suggestions? By the way, my vet charged me $68.50 for the 1 oz. jar.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
In my experience the majority of sarcoids occur in horses less than 5 years old but can be seen at any age. Over 5o% reoccurence rates after surgical removal slightly less reoccurence if done with a laser. Cryotherapy (freezing) works in most cases but often takes 2-4 times and results with white hair and possibly scars. Xxterra, Indian Mud, Bloodroot, Sanguinaria, Sarcoma salve also work in most areas and result in scars depending on the severity of the reaction. There is also an injectable Sanginaria product available through Buck Mountain Botanicals that works well. Immunostimulation products have worked but on a less consistent basis. Bottom line is that between these or combinations thereof almost all cases can be resolved with diligence and patience…..Flat sarcoids and sarcoids in or around the eye seem to be the tough cases.
January 5th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
Wendi,
Did you try the mushroom stuff?
I saw great results in two of my geldings not just for addressing a sarcoid but behavioral issues as well. It is a small company out of san diego-organically certified products. Two of my jumping colleagues at my barn are on it and they swear by it. Don’t knock it until you try it!
February 6th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Ihave a question for anyone who knows the answer. I have a mare who is about 5 years old maybe older. On her left flank she has this dried flower looking thing ,about an inch across. I thought it was a dried up flower and tired to pull it off. YUCK!!! A piece of it just fell off. Well I tried to get the thing off and it started to bleed,so I left it alone and put iodine on it. It still is ther, but not big like it was. Can anyone help me with this? She did not act as though it hurt when I was trying to get it off her. And when I put the iodine on her, her skin twitched a bit,but that was it. I have never seen anything like this before. We have 5 other horses,one being her colt.
February 6th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
I forgot to say that the thing wa a dark gray in color.
February 24th, 2010 at 7:03 am
My 9 year old chestnut gelding has had a sarcoid since he was a yearling. It was small in circumference and height til last summer when a raised tumor appeared. My vet tried injections in the fall to provoke a massive infection so that his own immune system killed it off. It is still there. We biopsied yesterday & await lab results. It is located on the inside right hind leg where tissue is thin so surgery is not a good option. We are considering freezing or chemo depending on results of course. Does anyone have experience in these scenarios? I don’t really care what it looks like after treatments…only his comfort.
March 18th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
My 6 yo QH gelding was purchased with 3 small, cauliflower-type sarcoids on the upper portion of his neck. I left them alone for a few months (got him in Oct) while he acclaimated to our farm. In Feb, noticed they were getting slightly bigger (more cauliflower-y) so decided to try xxterra before doing anything more invasive. Cost around $80 from my vet for small jar. Followed directions – applied 4 days in a row (didn’t clean in between) and then left alone for 3 weeks; directions didn’t say, but I trimmed his hair around sarcoids to make it easier to apply. The “mud” stuck to them and additional dirt accumulated. Some drainage occurred from underneath but not much. They just seemed to get bigger and caked with mud over the 3 weeks. I cleaned them gently last weekend to remove mud in anticipation of second round of xxterra treatment. Was going to start tonight (week 4 from orig treatment) and discovered they fell off on their own. Now a weepy, raw, flat area remains for each of 3 areas. Will see how well they heal and if they come back. Research I did from multiple sources said to be diligent about treating them when small in size and number.
Question – did anyone put ointment on the resulting wounds or is it best to leave them alone unless obvious infection occurs?
March 30th, 2010 at 11:11 pm
A friend used Super Glue on two small wart-type sarcoids on the face of his gray Arabian mare. Dried up and fell off, have not returned yet but that was only 1 year ago. Daughter’s mare had 1/2 wart on bridleparth that vet did cryofreeze….has not returned after 4 years.
My mare is another story. Large flat mass about 2″ in diameter on her belly in front of left hind leg, just behind flank web. Used Xterra ointment on her for 5 days in a row as directed, then lesions started popping out in 3 new locations about 4″ away. These get ugly black warty scabs which keep getting gnarlier and drier, then they fall off, but she is left with red/raw/swollen protrusions that have yet to completely heal. I’ve heard that the Xterra gets to the roots of these sarcoids and travels along what I suppose are ganglia trying to kill all of the virus (like a good blackberry poison painted on the leaves will travel back through the vine and kill the entire plant at the root). I just don’t know what to do next as this is pretty raw and applying more of the medicine, which I’m sure must be done, seems cruel to the animal as you can tell it stings. Does she just have to “bite the bulelt” as I did when a youngster and dad poured iodine on my cuts? Or is there some way to ease the discomfort for future treatments?
March 31st, 2010 at 8:21 am
Sue, we definitely recommend you seek the medical advice of a trustworthy veterinarian for your mare. Here’s a helpful link to help you find a vet in your area: http://www.bayerdvm.com/getadvm/index2.cfm;target=_blank.
Thanks for your comments!
Jody Reynolds
AQHA Internet Editor
April 10th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
Hey there, I’ve been reading about GMO foods (geneticaly modified organisms) I am taking my mare off corn, soybean and any other obvious gmo’s. She recently showed up with a sarcoid under her thigh area. I do know Monsanto, the producer of GMO’s doesn’t care who they make sick including our livestock. Just google monsanto and read all the harm they are creating. Just a fyi to feed your horse better.
April 18th, 2010 at 3:06 am
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May 10th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
I used Xterra for a cluster of sarcoids in the girth area of my gelding about 6-7 years ago. My horse was not happy when we applied the ointment to his very raw flesh, but since it appeared to be helping we did the course of treatment which I believe was once a day for four days and then four days off and then back to it again for another round. If my memory serves me correctly it took two rounds of treatment and it WORKED!! We gave him some bute during the treatment to make him more comfortable. Even though it looked raw and nasty it did not seem to really bother him except when we were putting new ointment on him. In between treatments he did not seem to mind.
I also had a friend that had a horse with huge tumor on his rump. It was an older horse so surgery was not an option. The tumor was about 2-3 inches in diameter and rose about 1/2 inch above the normal skin. I think she did three rounds of treatments for her horse and she was also successful.
My vet has been successful 90% of the time using this product.
June 17th, 2010 at 8:34 am
I bought a 4 year old mare sight unseen. She had a small sarcoid on her neck, It grew to the size of a silver dollar…My Vet tried exterra, caused severe discomfort,did not work. Another sarcoid appeared on the other side of her neck, also around her nose. My Vet injected “Immunoboost” under the sarcoid on the neck areas only. A second sub-cu injection a few weeks later…solved the problem…no sign of reoccurance in over 2 years… the hair is finally starting to cover the area after applying MTG.
June 28th, 2010 at 7:02 pm
I have battled with a sarcoma for a few years on the inside right leg of my 22 year old gelding .It is gross, bigger than ever, I have used xxtera ointment ($50 a time) tried banding it — this worked ,however another grew soon afterwards,my horse does not seem to be bothered with it or the treatment but I sure hate looking at it.if I saw him favouring that leg I or if he begins to drop weight I will have him put down (can,t bare that thought.) anyone with other ideas I’m all ears.!!!!!!!!!!
August 7th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
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August 11th, 2010 at 11:37 am
One of my horses had what I thought was a wart in his ear. Then one started growing above his eye. Histology report came back as bovine papilloma-like (sarcoid). They were cut off, xxtera was used on the sites. They really never healed completely and grew back. An unfrozen piece of the sarcoid over his eye was implanted under his skin along the crest of his neck. Within two months the sarcoids were gone and the site of implantaion was healed. It has been over two and a half years with no signs of regrowth.
August 15th, 2010 at 4:57 pm
I have a yearling draft mule colt named “Bob” who developed a sarcoid on his nose about 3 ” above his nostril. It is the size of a nickel and about 1/2 ” thick. My vet has given him one chemo treatment and is recommending a 2nd (after 3 weeks). I contacted the Vet college at UT and the vet explained how none of the treatments are all that effective. The most recent one they tried involed 2 chemo antibiotics (one named 5 FU) followed by hyperthermia. This treatment must be done in 2 week intervals.
All this being said I have spoken with 2 old time mule men who have had success with 1.) embalming fluid to burn it off.. has worked every time for many years. and 2.)banding the sarcoid after numbing it with novacaine. The banding stops the blood supply and it is supposed to fall off. Again, they say it has worked every time evan after lots of expense and time with vet treatments.
My question is could these treatments do more harm or are they worth a try?
August 31st, 2010 at 6:36 pm
I have a mare with what started as a very small sarcoid 9 years ago. I have had it cut out twice, and it is just larger now, and a flat black area with a few of the “bump” kind of sarcoids.. But each summer she also gets the bloody/califlower type growths, which we think are caused by flies. Since fly spray has not helped prevent these new growths in the past, this summer I am using the dry powder, Wonder Dust to try to just prevent the new growths. We will see what happens, probably won’t know until late fall if it worked, but as of August, no new growths.
September 11th, 2010 at 8:37 am
I have a 22 yr. old paint/mustang gelding. He skinned his eyelid on a fence 7 yrs. ago and got a flat sore that never healed completely. This was a hot summer with lots of traveling for us. While doing a circus in St. Louis, I noticed that it began to grow for the first time. I would like to try the blood root stuff or the mushroom mix as this is a very delicate area. Suggestions for eye treatment? Wayne said flat sacriods and those by the eye are the most difficult to treat- This is both1
September 23rd, 2010 at 4:58 am
I have a 5 yr old PB Arabian that when I took him in for his Fall shots a week ago, I asked him what this small patch was on his left shoulder. It’s about the size of a quarter and not all that noticeable until you get closer as there is still hair over it with a few small (very small bumps underneath). I have a big show coming up in a few weeks and so we have opted to wait treating it until after the show so that I don’t end up with a patch of bald skin possibly agitated during the show which may present issues with being able to show him. Anyways, he is recommending the cancer drug inserting into those bumps and said it may take 2 or 3 treatments to resolve. I was curious though. It’s important that the treatment I use does not cause the area to bald with no regrowth of hair. From what I can tell, some of these salve treatments burn the affected area to treat the sarcoid which is probably what causes the lack of hair growing back. I was curious if anyone had any suggestions on what things to consider for treatments that don’t cause the hair to not come back? Any vets in the house?
September 27th, 2010 at 8:48 am
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September 27th, 2010 at 8:48 am
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December 30th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
hi, i just bought a paint gelding and i saw these things on one of his ears and on his gurth area and the one on his ear realy bothers him, the one on his side has gotten bigger and is starting to open up alittle please can some one help me out here im lost over this. thak you joann
December 31st, 2010 at 10:25 am
Joann, we always recommend you seek the advice of a trusted veterinarian. But, in the meantime, if you’d like to e-mail us a picture of your horse’s problem areas at info@americashorsedaily.com, we can send it on to our experts. Good luck!
January 21st, 2011 at 5:47 pm
My 7yo thoroughbred has had a nasty fibroblastic sarcoid under his girth area. It was hanging down the size of a walnut and ke kept kicking it off, yuk. The vet has cut it out and freeze dried the area twice now. It has now come back a third time and has grown faster than ever. I have heard herpes creme Zovirax should be applied after surgery. It worked for a friend of mines horse over its eye. I am going to try the mushroom and exterra if I can get it here in Australia. 20 years ago i had a mare with a cancerous lump on her eyelid. I didnt know what it was back then and the vet injected tiny radioactive gold pins into the tumour. It shrunk a little and then just stayed a smallish lump for the rest of her life. white hair grew around the area but it worked.
March 17th, 2011 at 9:15 am
My Quarter x gelding contracted sarcoids, when I turned him out 13 yrs ago, they were small scaley looking things,they made me more uncomfortable than him, He picked them up from either (a vet that treated him when he bowed his tendon or when he rolled in bull holes on my friends property ) when I bought him back in for the polocrosse season I noticed small lesions, I had treated him with many concoctions to no avail nothing really worked, and I wasnt gunna have a vet do tests, others I knew had there horses bio treated and after it was cut out they lost their horse, so I perseveered, come across this site and treated his very large (6inch by6inch) sarcoid near his poll and a mass on his tummy, with mushroom matrix and bacon fat, it really works theyve gone,fell of, to me thats a miracle, and the both of us are very happy, he loves his mushroom matrix, thankyou people who had this in their comment, I truly thankyou and so does my horse,he doesnt carry around this big lump any more,,,,Im from Australia
April 4th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
My 14 year old mare has chronic laminitis so when she has a dime sized sore on her hip my vet thought it was a pressure sore. He told me to try a product which did no good, only allowed it to become silver dollar in size. He has recommended several different creams etc and now thinks it is a sarcoid. It is flat and dark in color. I am currently using TZon on it andit looks a little better.
My concern about a bioposy is that the sarcoid is will spread and become more aggressive. Has anyone used Sarcoid Salve? It comes with a good success rate.
April 12th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Can sarcoids be beneath the skin with hair growth overtop of them? I see most describe them as visible lessions, even scaley in characteristic features. Thank you for your help.
April 23rd, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Josie, I have a horse who I think has a sarcoid. It’s on his forearm. It started out as a quarter-sized flat patch with slightly lighter hair on the top of it. It looked raised a little. I noticed it a couple of years ago but it wasn’t doing anything so I put it out of my mind. Suddenly dark cauliflower bumps have appeared and once I started searching online, I’m pretty sure it’s a sarcoid.
May 6th, 2011 at 3:54 am
has anyone used this Sarcoid Cleansing Salve apparently it has a 95% success rate ???
June 15th, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Sarcoid Cleansing Salve, Equi-Salve and Sarcrid Salve are the same herbal mix. http://WWW.horsesalve.com has the best pricing.
July 6th, 2011 at 10:49 am
hi can any 1 help!!!! my horse has sarcoids in his ear and they look very bad i had the vet down last week and she said 2 ut him 2 sleep. but i would do any thing 2 save him.
July 15th, 2011 at 12:33 am
Has anyone EVER seen a sarcoid/tumor (not mass) on the side of a donkey’s sheath? My standard sized jack (stud) has a vet-confirmed tumor the size of a plum on the side of his shaft near his testicles. The vet said it is not in or on his penis, but rather on his shaft and said it may or may not be malignant. ANYONE ever seen anything like this? Please let me know ASAP; wondering how to proceed with my sweet donkey’s health. Thanks.
July 15th, 2011 at 12:35 am
correction to prior comment: …..on the side of a donkey’s shaft, not sheath…..
August 5th, 2011 at 11:58 am
My daughters 17 hand TB jumper has a sarcoid on the neck.
I treated an area about 6 inches in diamater starting Aug 1st
Vet prescribed Xxterra,
After 5 days, what a mess, all the skin is almost ‘burned off’ quite a bit of blood and it looks very sore and angry.
The Vet is confident this treatment will work and the skin and hair will grow back.
Time will tell.
October 4th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
We have been producting a sarcoid salve for about 10years now works wonders.
Give us a try at http://www.altcancercream.com the xxsarcoid salve is the product of choice.
Our strongest version of the product is our cowboy salve.
We have product with and without DMSO for you performance people.
October 6th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
Believe it or not !! My Vet diagnosed a quarter sized lesion on my broodmares chest as a sarcoid. We tried all kinds of meds until an Oldtimer from one of the large ranches here in S. Texas told me to use tanactine(athletes foot med.). I bought the Wal-Mart brand of Equate and applied it every other day. I saw results in about 2 weeks and have continued treating it now for 2 months and all that is there now is a dried up little patch that is starting to hair over. Don’t know what will happen if I stop treatment, but for the few minutes it takes to apply I will continue for awhile yet to see if it stays gone.
October 16th, 2011 at 8:13 am
My mare had two sarcoids when I bought her. One was flat and about the size of a silver dollar on her neck. The other was like a small grape hanging off her hip.There was a line of hair to the grape like one that stood up or look disturbed. I don’t like drugs and always tend to think that the immune system can help with anything. So I did not vaccinate the mare or give any drugs and started her on Transfer Factor stress formula.I also put her on lots of supplements to just bring her to health over all even though she looked really great. 2 days after finishing the first 7 day stress pack the grape sacroid just fell off. It got gross looking and then just dropped off. 6 months later I did another 7 day stress pak and the one on her neck shrank in size by about 25% and hair started covering parts of it. ANother 6 months and another 7 day stress pak and its almost 100% gone and the hair is covering almost all of it. Now that is along time to wait but there was no mess, no pain, and paitence. You can contact me if you want more info on exactly other things I did, I also used fresh aloe on the neck one for a time. Gina morningsunranch@charter.net
December 15th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
I have used the Mushroom Matrix and it did not work with my horse. I feed the Matrix ECP daily to all my horses it’s a great product. But one horse 16yo irish sport horse has bad sarcoids, one big patch on his stifle and another in his armpit area. Call mushroom matrix if you are thinking about using it, they auctually reccomend one of their other products (think its called equident) and not the regular ECP for sarcoid treatment. My horse was on this for over a year and it made the sarcoids worse, more angry, got bloody and bad looking but never got better. As soon as I pulled him off, after a year they calmed down and started to look better again.
December 29th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
My horse has a 4 inch patch of small wart-like bumps on the upper part of her front leg which was diagnosed by a vet as Sarcoid. She also had a patch of just regular warts on her back leg by her fetlock. About 6 months ago I used liquid garlic called “Kyolic” purchased from the health food store for one week on my grandson for a few warts which disappeared and never returned. Three months ago I used this same product on my horse’s wart patch on her back leg, applying once a day, and they disappeared in 3 weeks without returning. At the same time I also started applying this garlic to the Sarcoid and most of the patch of bumps are gone but a few small bumps remain and are a little scabby. I did take pictures when starting and will continue to treat the Sarcoid with garlic.
January 20th, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Well…I have a 7 yr old geling…and this sarcoid is a mess…I had it removed and tested. I’ve had it lazered off, cut off, ortho-scopticly removed, tubes of cream @ $85 per tube, exterra @ $75 per 1 oz jar, blood root, spent over $3500 on all kind of remedies and vet expense with 4 different vets…shots, I’m thoroughly disgusted and this is a very good gelding, barrel racing horse. It is on his ankle and he is getting disgusted with the picking up of his leg and doctoring…everything mentioned above works for a very short timeframe and then it is BACK–bigger and nastier than ever. He bumps it so it will be bloody looking and very nasty…I think I’m now going to try the Mushroom Mattrix ECP or the Tea Tree oil…but I have not had luck with any product or veterinarian surgery process! I’m very fustrated! So those that find a permanent process — thank goodness…I have not found anything that works as a final product or process…just giving vets money!
February 19th, 2012 at 10:47 am
I also have a horse with a sarcoid near his eye. The original sarcoid was just below the point of his eye. We have done two rounds of cisplatin and for a bit it was quiet. Now it is back and the eyelid is puffy, obviously the sarcoid is spreading up the eyelid. We will lose the eye if it gets much worse. One vet told us to do Cisplatin again, another said to try Xterra first. I am worried about putting Xterra on his eyelid. ANy experience with this? Thank you. I also think the mushroom ECP would be worth a try.
March 4th, 2012 at 7:15 pm
I have a mare with sarcoids in both ears. I had them removed and burned with liquid nitrogen last summer. Of course, they are back! She was never earshy until after the procedure. She is just now returned to letting me handle her ears; I would hate to do that again! I’m interested in the Mushroom Matrix ECP as a cure that’s less invasive. Anyone with experience with this product and ear sarcoids?
March 17th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
Hi, I commented above on Dec 29th. I am still applying the liquid Kyolic garlic to my horse’s sarcoid on her shoulder once in morning and nearly all bumps are gone. I can feel only a couple very tiny bumps. If you look up garlic on internet, it has so many amazing good results from humans to animals.
March 19th, 2012 at 1:58 pm
I have a 6 year old paint with an occult or verrucous sacoid on his neck. His is like a grey/black cauliflower thing, like lumpy, irregular thickened skin with no hair – about the size of a dime. I just had a skin biopsy done (now reading that aggravating it may caus the thing to spread…ugh!). Anyhow, I’m wondering if people can be clearer about their attempted treatment to different types of sarcoids. It isn’t a bump really (although it is uneven). also, in reading about Xxterra, can people tell me if the hair grows back? The area where he has this is surrounded by black hair. I don’t want a patch of white hair to grow back. Thanks for any help.
March 31st, 2012 at 10:19 pm
My paint gelding was diagnosed with Occult Sarcomas last spring (2011). We did six injections over a six week period to boost his immune system … TO NO AVAIL. He has one the size of a silver dollar on his neck and one behind his front leg. Thankfully it doesn’t interfere with his cinch and I still ride him. I was online looking for possible alternatives and think I’m going to try the tea tree oil, which I already have on hand and the Kyolic garlic. I’ll try the tea tree oil first and will let you all know what happens. Wish me luck … this is a horse I absolutely LOVE!!!
April 17th, 2012 at 2:39 pm
I have a paint gelding that has two sarcoids in his left ear. I have treated his ear twice with XXtera and the sarcoids didnt get any bigger nor did they go away. So now my vet is going to do surgery and remove the two sarcoids then we are going to treat his ear with Sarcoid Cleansing Salve from Balanced Eco Solutions. My hope is that this product is able to keep the sarcoids from returning.
April 22nd, 2012 at 9:52 pm
Dear All,
I am a veterinarian in Australia and wish to clear up some misconceptions about equine sarcoids. Primarily is that statistically approximately 30% of cases (at least in Australia) will go away by themselves doing absolutely nothing. So for all of these treatments that work for some people and not work for other people it could easily be explained by the statistics. So to say that something works for sarcoids because it seemed to work for you is wrong. Any product needs to be tested on hundreds to thousands of horses to be able to say it works, AND it needs to improve on the 30% spontaneous regression that would be seen doing nothing at all. Additionally the best rates of success are around 80-90% of cases cured, as for other cancers. Nothing in the scientific literature has found rates better than this FOR any treatment tested on large population samples. So ANY treatment will not work on ALL horses. Sorry, there is still much to learn about equine sarcoids, as there is cancer and the immune system. My advice, talk to an equine vet first, preferably a specialist qualified equine vet before wasting money on questionable cures.
April 24th, 2012 at 5:00 pm
I have a Percheron/Friesian Cross that had his shots given in his neck.
He developed a what looked like a sarcoid shortley after. It was about 2 inches in diameter raised and wartie looking. He lost the hair around it. He was 1yr old at the time. It stayed the same for at least 4 years would sometimes get crusty from getting it scratched.
I started treating it with Pure Tea Tree oil. I dab some on a cotton ball and apply it every day. I think it stung him sometimes but he let me apply it. It took 2yrs of doing this application and finally part of the wartie raised area seemed to pop and the lesion seemed to ooze a little bloody fluid but the wartie area went flat . A short time later the other half also did the same thing.
The entire area is now totally covered with hair and you would never know there was ever a lesion there. This may or may not help some of the larger cases but it sure worked for him.
May 16th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
i had two horses with sarcoids, my gelding had a large flat type on his chest. his previous owners had tried everything, re-injection, creams, you name it, with no success. I had him for two years and it was getting bigger every year. The one on my mare was also on her chest but it was the protruding type about the size of the end of your thumb, also seemed to be getting larger. So this elderly friend of mine who has cows on our place in the summer told me to treat it with lavender oil, she said it had to be therapeutic grade. She said lavender oil has anti-viral qualities. so on the gelding it was bloody and crusty from the flies so i put on the lavender oil and then packed it with corona cream. I saw improvement within 2 weeks. It has been about a year now and it is covered with hair, you can still see where it was, but it is healed and still growing hair. My mare i used the rubber band trick and the lavender oil, it took about a month and it fell off and has never returned, one little bare spot where it was. I had tried the rubber band trick before without the lavender oil and it fell off, but grew back. I got the lavender oil at the health food store the big bottle ran me around 12 bucks. I would apply it about 3 times a week on both horses. I had good luck, i hope this works for someone else, at least its a cheap try! good luck!